QRL OTS Key Indexes



  • Bonjour à tous,

    J’ai reçu ma ledger key. Je voudrais transferer mes qrl et je voudrais être sur de ne pas faire l’erreur car lorsque que je vois :
    NOTE With your last key you must empty your wallet. If you use all of your OTS Key Indexes with funds in the wallet, these funds will be lost FOREVER (Don’t worry, there are plenty of warnings along the way.)

    Je n’ai pas envi de faire une mauvaise manip avec ces OTS key indexes…

    https://docs.theqrl.org/wallet/ledger-nano-s/

    Si quelqu’un peut m’éclairer sur ce point

    Merci



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  • @Mat-Mat-0 Tu as essayé sur leur discord ou Twitter ??



  • J’ai les ai en effet contactés
    Je post cet email, ça peut toujours servir :

    First, some comforting words. Nobody has lost their QRL yet due to OTS key misuse.

    The OTS key will automatically increment. Most people don’t touch that field, but I’ll try to explain what it’s about:

    One time signature keys are a feature of the quantum resistant security we use (XMSS). XMSS contains many keys, and some would say it’s a tree of keys. Every time you send a transaction and use a key, the network keeps track of it. When you open the wallet, the wallet connects to the network and you’ll get a new unused key (OTS key). The concern happens when the node the wallet is connecting to isn’t up to date with the block you sent your last transaction AND if the node is malicious.

    For people sending one transaction per day (visa average ~0.8/day), this means a node would need to be a full day out of date, and the node would have to be malicious for your OTS key reuse to weaken your wallet. If the node is a full day out of date, but is not malicious, what would happen is your transaction would be rejected on OTS key reuse and no funds would be lost. A good way to check to see if things are up to date is to see if the last transaction you sent is visible when you open your wallet.

    Because of the possibility of things not being in sync, however, it’s still recommended to keep track of your key usage on a piece of paper in case the network is out of date.

    Hope that helps, and feel free to ask any followup questions,

    J…
    on behalf of The QRL team

    On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 9:52 AM xxxxx wrote:

        Hello,
    
        I'm French and even if my english is not too bad i would like to be sure about
        what im doing....
    
        I bought a Ledger nano and would like to tranfert my QRL on it, when i
        read your article : https://docs.theqrl.org/wallet/ledger-nano-s/ who is
        seem like clear but maybe because im not english i still have some doubt
        about this OTS Key ... specially when i see i can loose my QRL ...
    
        I still don't get totally this key.
    
        I sent you 2 screenshot of my wallet because im afraid to do mistake.
    
        what should i do ?
    
        Thanks very much


  • @Mat-Mat-0 a dit dans QRL OTS Key Indexes :

    J’ai les ai en effet contactés
    Je post cet email, ça peut toujours servir :

    First, some comforting words. Nobody has lost their QRL yet due to OTS key misuse.

    The OTS key will automatically increment. Most people don’t touch that field, but I’ll try to explain what it’s about:

    One time signature keys are a feature of the quantum resistant security we use (XMSS). XMSS contains many keys, and some would say it’s a tree of keys. Every time you send a transaction and use a key, the network keeps track of it. When you open the wallet, the wallet connects to the network and you’ll get a new unused key (OTS key). The concern happens when the node the wallet is connecting to isn’t up to date with the block you sent your last transaction AND if the node is malicious.

    For people sending one transaction per day (visa average ~0.8/day), this means a node would need to be a full day out of date, and the node would have to be malicious for your OTS key reuse to weaken your wallet. If the node is a full day out of date, but is not malicious, what would happen is your transaction would be rejected on OTS key reuse and no funds would be lost. A good way to check to see if things are up to date is to see if the last transaction you sent is visible when you open your wallet.

    Because of the possibility of things not being in sync, however, it’s still recommended to keep track of your key usage on a piece of paper in case the network is out of date.

    Hope that helps, and feel free to ask any followup questions,

    J…
    on behalf of The QRL team

    On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 9:52 AM xxxxx wrote:

        Hello,
    
        I'm French and even if my english is not too bad i would like to be sure about
        what im doing....
    
        I bought a Ledger nano and would like to tranfert my QRL on it, when i
        read your article : https://docs.theqrl.org/wallet/ledger-nano-s/ who is
        seem like clear but maybe because im not english i still have some doubt
        about this OTS Key ... specially when i see i can loose my QRL ...
    
        I still don't get totally this key.
    
        I sent you 2 screenshot of my wallet because im afraid to do mistake.
    
        what should i do ?
    
        Thanks very much
    

    Je viens de lire leur réponse, c’est le côté "quantum resistant " qui rend les choses compliquées !?
    As tu réussi ?
    La 1er chose est d’être sur que ton wallet soit bien synchronisé, la clef OTF "doit normalement " être bonne. ( Si j’ai bien compris 🙈)
    Perso, je testerai déjà avec 1 petit montant.
    A+

    Au cas où ( je pense que tu y es déjà passé )
    https://docs.theqrl.org/wallet/ledger-nano-s/



  • Parfait. Jai fait plus d’un virement même externe et parfait !



  • @Mat-Mat-0 Good news !!
    La blockchain quantic n’a pas buggé !! 😁😁


 

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